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Post by papillon on Sept 24, 2007 8:22:57 GMT -5
We've had some talk about the difference between skill and creativity here on LMA lately. So I've been thinking.
What would you all say if we had a sort of open ended challenge - with no particular deadline where the aim would be precisely creativity.
What I had in mind was posting one reference which everyone has to draw or paint with brushes or even digitally. But the exercise is not to replicate the reference but to take it as a starting point and then give it a whole new feeling - new colours, different perspective, turn it into an abstract.... whatever you please... anything that makes it yours and unique.
Let me know if anyone is at all interested.
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Post by Tim on Sept 24, 2007 8:44:07 GMT -5
Sounds good to me ..almost sounds like my sguiggle (sp?) idea from a while ago. I have been in a creative rut and would look forward to the challenge.
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Post by grampybone on Sept 24, 2007 9:57:30 GMT -5
I'd be willing to give it a try. It'll be a challenge for me since I'm not really that creative.
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Post by Martina on Sept 24, 2007 10:27:59 GMT -5
I'm in too - but must I use brushes? It is always so very difficult to hold the CPs with brushes.... ;D No, ernestly - must I use brushes or digital or can I use CPs? Or pastels or whatever?
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Post by papillon on Sept 24, 2007 11:11:51 GMT -5
I'm in too - but must I use brushes? It is always so very difficult to hold the CPs with brushes.... ;D No, ernestly - must I use brushes or digital or can I use CPs? Or pastels or whatever? If you hadn't been so sick these past days I would thump you on the head!! Of course you can use CPs! - you can use anything you want. everyone has to draw or paint with brushes or even digitally. Does that make it clearer now? I'm glad a few people are finding this interesting. You know - this could be a way to develop personal style. I look at my gallery and see an eclectic collection. All my work is dictated by my reference... I'm a slave to the reference... and this means I am miles from developing a personal style. So the exercise here is to use the reference merely as a starting point and to depart from it as much as possible without losing it completely. Now - who is going to volunteer a reference. Remember - there is no deadline for this.... but I guess there should be a starting point!
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Post by Joanie on Sept 24, 2007 12:12:35 GMT -5
Count me in........................but I have to finish my ATC first! LOL
I have been constantly on the go for over a week now and just barely had time to do Tim's challenge. I'm hoping things will calm down here soon.
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Post by jan on Sept 24, 2007 12:25:45 GMT -5
I'm interested since it's an open-ended challenge! Have no idea of when I'll be in a position to do it though!
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Post by papillon on Sept 24, 2007 12:38:02 GMT -5
Lovely to have you both on board Joanie and Jan. Yes, definitely an open ended thing since we are all up to something one way or another. More than a challenge let's call this a project or better still - Operation Creativity!
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Post by paulette on Sept 24, 2007 12:47:35 GMT -5
I am looking through my pictures, but I just don't know what to look for??? A picture of a dead tree that looks like something else--you can draw what you see it looking like? A picture out a glass block window--you draw what you think you see? A bowl of fruit--try to make it your own??
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Post by Tim on Sept 24, 2007 13:25:06 GMT -5
Ted's clouds were brilliant for ideas but perhaps something a little closer to earth ....or a concept. OOOOOOOO I have an idea it was something I wanted to take a picture of but didn't have my camera. Outside of one of the huge movie theatres we have here there is a large stone ball ( little higher than standard bench height. There was a couple embracing each other .The woman sat on the large stone ball with her legs on either side and the man was being held in close to her. It was such an interesting picture because of the way their bodies flowed together in conjunction with the ball.So now I need to go and photograph the ball Anyhow I thought I would just through it out there since it came to my mind . Do with it what you will
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Post by papillon on Sept 24, 2007 13:48:18 GMT -5
Great ideas Tim and Paulette! I think we should have a sort of brainstorming - let everyone post potential references....any number you want. But then I think we should all agree on one. It would be interesting to see all the different interpretations and whether we can execute it in a particular style. Oh this is going to be fun... difficult but fun!
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Post by Martina on Sept 24, 2007 16:55:30 GMT -5
If you hadn't been so sick these past days I would thump you on the head!! Of course you can use CPs! - you can use anything you want. I'll do this for you - - I deserve it. I love this thread and this challenge. And I look forward to seeing the possible ref pics. I'll search myself too. Maybe we can make a poll then to choose the first ref pic that we will use? Ooooh - what a great idea this creativity challenge is!
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Post by paulette on Sept 25, 2007 10:18:17 GMT -5
A bowl of fruit--try to make it your own?? A picture out a glass block window--you draw what you think you see? A picture of a dead tree that looks like something else--you can draw what you see it looking like?
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Post by Miranda on Sept 25, 2007 22:49:04 GMT -5
what great ideas . it shell be fun
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Post by Martina on Sept 26, 2007 6:41:30 GMT -5
Great photos, Paulette!
If I am honest I must say that every of these three is very good for this challenge. My first creative thought I had was an idea what I could do with the dead tree.
I really look forward to this challenge - when do we start, Rose?
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Post by papillon on Sept 26, 2007 7:08:31 GMT -5
Thank you for the pictures Paulette.
To be perfectly honest with you, when I first thought of this what I had in mind is not - what does this make you think of - but rather a reference that on the face of it appeared the same to everyone and then it would be up to each of us to "interpret" it or render it in a way that is original and creative. So not so much Ted's clouds but more of the application of a particular style to something that is prima facie unequivocal.
However - this too could be a very good start in the creative process. For instance, I can see a very good base for an abstract painting in the glass block window.
Martina - as soon as we decide which reference everyone is going to use we can start.
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Post by paulette on Sept 26, 2007 13:59:43 GMT -5
Person, place, thing, vegetable, animal, mineral I have a fair number of pictures on by blog, if you see something there, let me know and I'll post it.
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Post by papillon on Sept 27, 2007 10:50:44 GMT -5
Indeed Paulette - you have scads of pictures on your blog and practically all of them are very good. And allow me to say I just loved your sketch of your mum!
I don't know what the others want to do or what they feel comfortable with.
I really would love to see some input here - if only to say what type of subject you would like us to tackle. Come on guys!
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Post by paulette on Sept 27, 2007 11:51:33 GMT -5
Thank you Rose!
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Post by Tim on Sept 27, 2007 17:23:54 GMT -5
I'm easy ...I figure whatever is put up will be a challenge so I will go with the flow
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Post by andrea on Sept 27, 2007 18:59:03 GMT -5
So, let me get this right.... We pick a reference then everyone draws it in their own style without being a slave to the reference? Does it still need to look like the reference in the end, just resemble it or not look like it at all? Are we trying to do it in a different style to how we usually draw?
My opinion on the ref; I'd be happy with most things but don't really like landscapes, more of a still life, animal or portrait girl myself! ;-)
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Post by papillon on Sept 28, 2007 6:23:54 GMT -5
My initial idea was to use the same reference and render it in a way that is not a photocopy of that reference. This could be done in any way - changing the colours, changing the perspective, using a style that is more impressionistic than realistic.
The whole aim is for us to train ourselves to relate more freely with the reference, to improvise and be creative. I think ultimately the subject should still be recognisable as the subject in the reference or at least a part of it (you could opt to crop minutely).
I have the feeling that to make this easier for everyone perhaps we should start with a still life.
What do you all think?
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Post by jan on Sept 28, 2007 10:32:30 GMT -5
That sounds good to me. I also like that we'll all be using the same reference as it's such fun to see the interpretation that each person will apply to it. Perhaps the only rule for this challenge is that we aren't allowed to paint/draw it exactly like it is. Wow! think of the possibilities!
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Post by andrea on Sept 28, 2007 20:43:28 GMT -5
I'm in!
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Post by nancy on Sept 30, 2007 6:10:01 GMT -5
I saw a picture in a building I was visiting the other day that was actually the building but each design student did their own section of it, kind of like window panes but each done by a different artist . It was interesting to see all the different takes on the same picture but yet it flowed together.
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